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Esther Ye: All right. Welcome, everybody. Welcome. We’re so glad that you guys could join us today. My name is Dr. Esther [Ye 00:00:08] and I’m going to be introducing our keynote speaker today for the 2020 Family Conference. I am one of the counselors here at Rhombus Counseling, and I’m also a faculty member at Rhombus University who is hosting this year’s 2020 Family Conference. So during the seminar, if you guys have any questions, you can go ahead and type in the Q&A box. We’ll do our best to be able to answer some of the questions if we have time today. Okay.
Esther Ye: So I have the pleasure of introducing our keynote speaker, Dr. Ray Hayden. He is the CEO of Rhombus. He has a bachelor’s in biblical studies, a master’s in counseling psychology, and a doctorate in psychology with an emphasis in industrial-organizational psychology. He shares a passion for biblical truth being applied to business, psychology, relationships, information, and more, and began Rhombus as a content-developing company. Along with his wife, Dr. Julie Hayden, he has developed platforms to increase the information and tools to help people find God and health as well as ways to strengthen their families and impact their communities.
Esther Ye: Together, Doctors Ray and Julie Hayden own and operate several counseling centers, a continuing education and training company, and Rhombus University as platforms for disseminating information and tools to all people. The Family Conference was one of the first platforms and still a robust, powerful one to get relevant information to those who need it, and we’ll share it with others. Many other amazing quality experts, psychologists, and therapists have joined the Rhombus team and are being used by God to further the vision. Please join me in welcoming Dr. Ray Hayden.
Ray Hayden: Thank you, Dr. Ye, for that intro. I hope everybody can see and hear me as well. I want to begin the Family Conference with a word of prayer. So please join me and we’ll begin praying.
Ray Hayden: Lord Jesus, I just pray that all the people that attending today and all of the speakers, we just are overwhelmed with the power of the Holy Spirit. And I pray that we’re just able to listen and gain tools that will help us, our families and our communities, Lord, especially in these types of times. I pray that the technology goes very well and everybody that is wanting to attend is able to, Lord, in your name. Amen.
Ray Hayden: Very cool. Well, thank you everyone for joining us today at the sixth annual Family Conference. It’s the first one we’ve done over the Zoom platform. So I’m just excited that we’re still able to hold the Family Conference and reach out to anybody that wants to attend through this platform.
Ray Hayden: I’m very excited about all the speakers. I’m excited to talk to you guys about just helping families, helping our communities. And I am also humbled that we’re still able to connect with everybody and join together to really help our communities and impact our families all together. So what I wanted to discuss with you that we do every year is where the Family Conference came from. But before I talk about that, when you’re beginning in mental health as a profession, oftentimes it’s very difficult to know where to even begin. There is an incredible laundry list of problems that seem to have no rhyme or reason. We have things like anxiety, disorders, divorce, childhood trauma, PTSD. There’s just this long and longer and longer laundry list that doesn’t seem to have rhyme or reason oftentimes, and it’s hard to know how you can make an impact, how you even can approach all of the different issues.
Ray Hayden: And that’s where even in the Family Conference, when we started making a list of all the ways we wanted to help people, it just gets longer and longer. And it’s actually difficult to just cut it short to the ones we have, which we have a pretty good list this year.
Ray Hayden: So the Family Conference started when I did a very deep dive into the book of Genesis, more specifically, the creation account. I started mapping it out. I started diagramming it. I started going very deep into the book and trying to understand it, trying to come at it from different angles. And the deeper I would go, the deeper it would go. And what came out changed me, changed my family, and really blew my mind.
Ray Hayden: When you are looking at the creation account, you’re not going to get a more macro view or a more zoomed-out view of the universe. You’re not going to get a more zoomed-out understanding of humans and God’s creation. That is the apex of a zoomed-out perspective, which I really appreciate because I think in those types of terms. And when I began to see those aspects of God’s creation and start mapping them out, a lot of pieces started to fall together for me.
Ray Hayden: So when we look at this macro view, we see God. The first thing in the book of Genesis is in the beginning. So God is starting in time. And we see this aspect of God pulling into creation out of nothing all the aspects of the universe. And not just matter, but time, space, light, dark. And we see Him doing more than just creating out of nothing. He starts dividing things. He even starts linking things together and He starts naming things. So there’s a lot more than just creating, creating. He’s carefully constructing, piecing together, pulling apart. And we just see this giant unfolding of God’s plan for His design in the universe.
Ray Hayden: We also see a interesting feedback loop that also shows His carefully-craftedness of this creation. We see this aspect where though the entire Trinity, we find out later is involved in this process, but we see God crafting something. It’s being looked over, and then it’s being judged. So we see this loop over and over in the creation account. And God usually says, “It is good,” or, “It is not good.”
Ray Hayden: And so God starts with time. He starts with space. He’s creating all the stars. He’s creating the celestial bodies. He’s linking time to the celestial bodies. So we get 24 hour days. We’d get years, and even epochs we see because of the celestial bodies and how He connected them all. So we have this giant zoom out, then we’re zooming in and He starts creating life. He starts creating the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and the creepy things along the dry land after He pulls the dry land out.
Ray Hayden: Then what happens is we zoom in to one special, particular aspect of creation, and it’s this configuration or this mechanism that God uses for having a management style for the whole planet, for all of His creation. And we see is what we call the family. When we see it’s man, woman, offspring to have dominion over the world.
Ray Hayden: And the makeup of it is interesting. It’s a spiritual… [inaudible 00:07:59] created in His image, and it’s the spiritual, biological, sexual, genetic configuration. And it’s by God’s design. And as we… Oh, I want to do… So there is a key verse that shows this, and I want to read it to you right now. And it’s in Genesis 1:26. “And God said, ‘Let us make man in our image, after our likeness, and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the fowl of the air, over the cattle, and over all creation, over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.’ So God created man in his own image. In the image of God, He created him, male and female. He created them. And God blessed them. And God said to them, ‘Be fruitful, multiply, and replenish the earth and subdue it and have dominion over the fish of the sea, over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moves upon the earth.'”
Ray Hayden: So we see this is God’s plan for mankind and how He created it. And we also see this aspect of this management style in humans and this explorer type personality. Humans are wanting to master their environments. And we see that today with how we invent computers, how we create rocket ships. We do paintings. We’re always trying to master our environment. And that’s by our design and who we are and how we were created.
Ray Hayden: So that’s God’s plan. God focused, went from this macro perspective to this focused perspective. But Satan also keyed in on that. He realized that this is the key to God’s plan. This is the special element of God’s management of the universe. And so Satan tried to infiltrate the family, and he succeeded. Mankind sinned, Satan tempted him, and Satan won in that particular aspect. And we see the earth is cursed, man is cursed, woman is cursed, and Satan is cursed. So we have these curses and that’s a really fun study as well to go look at the specific curses and see how they apply to humans.
Ray Hayden: But even after the curses and man was kicked out of the garden, we still see this mandate multiple times in Genesis after the fall of be fruitful, procreate, have dominion over the earth. So it’s spoken again and again throughout Genesis and other parts of scripture as well, this aspect of humanity, this configuration of the family.
Ray Hayden: So looking at a Genesis lens or a creation lens really showed me a few things. One is that the family is a key element to God’s purpose in His universe. It also showed me that there is an assault on that particular building block of God’s plan. And we know that the family is the building block for other institutions. The family is what makes up churches. It’s what makes up communities. It also is what makes up nations. So if Satan can distort or destroy this part of creation, he thinks he could win.
Ray Hayden: The other thing, it showed me that the aspects in any kind of professional or helping profession, mental health or other helping professions, that it isn’t on accident. There is a rhyme. There is a reason to all the myriad and laundry list of things we do that are facing us. And so the third thing that it showed me was that I need to be proactive and on the offensive with my family and hopefully to help other families as well.
Ray Hayden: So that’s where the Family Conference came from. And it did change my life. It changed my family’s life. And we have tried to gather experts that have spent their whole careers and their whole lives trying to take people or families or aspects of their communities from point A to point B, a place of suffering or confusion or fear, and have found tools that actually have worked and have taken them to point B where they can have peace in their life. And we try to gather them all together and we ask them to just give us those gold nuggets, and then give them out to the community. So that’s what the Family Conference is all about, and I’m hoping this year is just the same.
Ray Hayden: The very first Family Conference we did, my wife gave an incredible analogy. I’ll never forget it. And I’m going to tell it to you right now, steal it from her. But she grew up in the hills of East County, and we were hiking one day, and she and I both ran into some stinging nettle. And she’s like, “Oh, I hate this stuff. It gives you rashes. It makes you itch.” And I told her, “Well, you know the anecdote to stinging nettle is in the stinging nettle. If you grab the stinging nettle with the fibers and you squish it in your hand and rub it on the rash, it stops the effects. It stops the stinging and it neutralizes the rash.” And she said, “Wow, I wish I would have known that from the very beginning. I wish I would’ve known that when I was a kid. It would’ve saved me a lot of rashes and stings.”
Ray Hayden: That to me is a great analogy about there is information that if you do know it, you can help you and your family, but you can also help someone else who is struggling with that. We all need to have more knowledge and more understanding about the tools that can help people within our community, because it isn’t on accident. It is on purpose. Thank you. I’m going to give you back to actually my wife, Dr. Julie Hayden, and appreciate you listening to and joining us at the Family Conference. So thank you very much. I hope you guys have a great time.
Julie Hayden: Thank you, Dr. Ray. I am so excited to be here as well. Thank you for that keynote address. I hope everybody online with us so far is excited and passionate about why to learn these tools, why to dive in and get help with whatever is impacting your family or those around you, those that you can help within your community.
Julie Hayden: So I wanted to take some time to thank our sponsors. Let me put this up here just so we get a look here. So I have a couple of drawings we’re going to have in just a little bit for those that have registered already. And before we get there, I want to just take some time to put this up here and remind you of some people and some agencies that have been really helpful in the Family Conference. Actually, every year, many of these places will support us.
Julie Hayden: So you see Mapleview Baptist Church. That’s my church. Supports us each year. Sometimes we’ll have it at their location. Thrivent Financial has supported us since the very first Family Conference. KSTW Radio, they’ve supported us as well, and Genesis Recovery since the very first Family Conference six years ago. We have a lot of counseling centers affiliated. Some of our therapists are with us, with Rhombus Counseling, as well as some other Christian counseling agencies in the community.
Julie Hayden: So I just want to take some time to thank our sponsors and thank those who have supported us as each year, especially our speakers. You’ll find as, as you dive in and come to some of these presentations, that these speakers are amazing. They love God. They know their Bible. They have been a clinician and been excellent at getting people to where they want to be, getting them healthy in certain ways, getting them to the place where they can be there for their family. So we’ve asked them to share what’s most important. You’ll have sessions that are 30 minutes of content, and then 15 minutes of discussion. Probably some of the best 30 minutes you’ll ever have.
Julie Hayden: So I want to go over some of the topics so you know what you have as an option. I know many of you have already registered and you’ve already chosen your topic. So that’s great. But I want to take some time to go over what we have so you can get the most out of the time together, so you choose wisely and have the presentations that would help you the most.
Julie Hayden: So let’s take a look here. First of all, we have at at 11:00 AM the very first session. These are the ones that you have to choose from. We have healthy sex and marriage, and this is by Dr. [Marcell Filon 00:17:07]. He has also been a part of the Family Conference from the very beginning and is an amazing therapist. He started off with understanding of scripture. He is a reverend and ordained minister, and he has worked in the Christian community for many, many years, is now licensed as a marriage and family therapist, and has been helping families and couples in his clinical work for a number of years. So he’s going to bring some of the great tools that you can use, five keys right away, to have incredible sex in marriage. That will be at 11:00 AM.
Julie Hayden: I’m going to be doing a presentation as well on a new way of viewing addictions. I’m extremely excited about this. We obviously have addictions as one of these, like Dr. Ray said, myriad of problems in our society that are eating away the family unit. Addiction is right there at the top. So I’m going to present a new way of viewing it, which also gives us a little bit more tools on how we approach it. This could be great for somebody struggling with an addiction or those family members that you have that you want to support.
Julie Hayden: Also, [Jed Jurjenco 00:18:16] is going to be on at 11:00 AM with family time matters. And he’s going to teach you how to create purposeful family engagement in tiny pockets of time. I think this is great for the time right now, where we’re all together more in the home. There are several presentations at this Family Conference that will help you have closeness with your family members when you might be going stir crazy, all trapped together for a timeframe. So I want you to consider Jed’s presentation. He actually does presentations all over the place. He had a huge conference recently that he was hosting and as a lot of experience in how to build that connection and communication within families. So that’s his coming here at 11:00.
Julie Hayden: Now, if you hop off, that’s okay. We’re going to come back on at 11:00 AM. But we’re going to do a drawing toward the end for those who are attending if you want an opportunity to win a $20 gift card to Amazon. We’ll get it emailed to you. We usually always do these drawings, and so I thought that was great. We could email the gift card.
Julie Hayden: So we have a couple special presentations. Dr. Stella Kim is going to have two presentations in the Korean language, and we have a lot of resources available in other languages. So that’s wonderful to have her on. She’s going to be presenting on parenting playbook, and it’s not too late if you have friends that might need some of these. Just send me the links. On the website, we have all the links. You could just copy them all to your friends if you have people in the Korean language that would want to jump on.
Julie Hayden: We have a very special guest. Officer Sean [Sayer 00:20:00] prepared to do a presentation on domestic violence. He has worked as a police officer responding to domestic violence calls for a number of years. And he does our trainings when we teach counselors on how to work with domestic violence from the legal perspective. He’s going to share what happens when somebody calls 911 all the way to possibly an arrest, or even what happens after with restraining orders, and anybody that has dealt with domestic violence, you know how complicated it is. It’s not simply reaching out for help. There’s a lot of risk involved both to people’s safety as well as to in the end, not being able to get what you need from the legal system. He’s going to describe all that to you. It’s a great resource. He’s going to be on at 11:00 AM as well.
Julie Hayden: Now, Dr. Kay Lawrence is going to be with us today at 11:00. She has been a missionary and counselor for a number of years. She had an orphanage taking children with learning disabilities all the way to having a vocation. For a number of years, her daughter has taken over and she still works closely with that orphanage in Mexico. She has a wealth of experience on trauma and how to minimize the negatives of that in a person’s life. She’s specifically going to teach us tools if there’s trauma, whether it’s a little trauma or big trauma, how do you prevent negatives from coming from that? How do you build resiliency and thrive and become stronger instead of being taken out by that trauma? Great opportunity for us today.
Julie Hayden: Now, we also have Esther Park sharing a presentation for younger kids. So if you have kids, you want to get a device out for them so that they can participate too. This is called remembering our strengths. It does put in parenthesis the ages 4 to 11 as the early one. She’s going to have one for the older ages later. And this is going to be interactive. They’re going to be reading a story. There’s going to be activities and crafts. So this will be very fun if you have kids that want to jump on and participate while you have your presentation.
Julie Hayden: Now, we also have the Spanish language, two presentations, excellent presentations prepared in the Spanish language. So Romelia Gomez, a licensed marriage and family therapist, and strong believer. She was a counselor at Shadow Mountain at one point in the Hispanic church there. And she’s going to be presenting on managing anxiety. Very important for today. So consider that. Consider who you could invite to join her presentation. That’s 11:00 AM. Lots of great presentations.
Julie Hayden: How we have it worked out is you have all the lists available to you. So you can just go right to the Zoom link, jump on at 11:00 AM. You’re going to have 30 minutes of the person presenting and time for discussion. And then you’ll have a little break to take a break, do what you need to, come back on right at 12:00 PM. I want you to get the most out of today. So I hope you come right back at 12:00 PM.
Julie Hayden: And here are your options. Actually, very popular on social media and who has registered. This is something seems to be probably a topic many need help with today. Might be for yourself, might be for your family or other people in your church. And that’s addiction to pornography, especially during this time where a lot of resources people use with addictions like hiking and just being out and doing activities, those are taken away. Those are limited. So it’s been really difficult. So this presentation will give you just some tools you can use right away, whether this is for you or for those in your community that might need it.
Julie Hayden: I’ll never forget the first Family Conference. Somebody went to Dr. Moore’s presentation on pornography. He came out so excited and he said, “I can’t believe it. These tools are great. I’m going to share it with all my guy friends that are struggling.” And the struggle is there. And so that’s exciting. I’m sure you’ll get a lot of tools from it.
Julie Hayden: Now at 12:00 PM, we also have Jed Jurjenco coming back. This is going to be for those already in a relationship, married. This is level up your love, 15 powerful statements to revolutionize your relationship. You’re going to learn three quick strategies to make the most significant impact in your relationships. So you can come to this and hear his presentation. He always has very tangible tools you can use right away.
Julie Hayden: Now, we have pastor Alex John. He actually is also is a pastor, has his training in Bible, as well as a therapist. He has a master’s in counseling psychology. He’s going to be presenting a biblical foundation of family and how to create rhythm, rituals, and roles of balancing work, family, and spiritual life. How to bring in faith, nurture faith in your home. And he’s going to also touch on when there’s cultural differences. When you have a strong cultural or religious belief system and your kids may be within the Americanized version of pop culture. And how do you navigate that? How do you pull them in and give them the faith and the foundation and the anchoring in Christian faith when maybe that’s not what they’re getting around them? [inaudible 00:25:23] great tools planned for you.
Julie Hayden: We also have another youth presentation by Esther Park. Very interactive. She’s planned all kinds of activities to keep them going, keep them entertained. This is going to be for the older ages. The theme is remembering your strengths and having them… when problems face them, how do they use that for good? How do they build resilience and come out stronger and better because of it? So she’s going to give them some tools. And this is ages about 12 to 17.
Julie Hayden: Now, we have [DaVita 00:25:59] Andrews, one of my favorite therapist. She’s amazing. She’s going to be sharing, raising resilient kids. And she has her own personal experience of doing this very well. But she is going to be sharing what types of things you could do with your children that no matter what life brings them, they can be strong. They can rise above. And she has some really great tools. I’ve seen a little bit of what she’s going to present, and you’re going to be very excited. So attend DaVita Andrews on her presentation coming at 12:00 PM.
Julie Hayden: Now, we have Anthony, and Anthony is with Thrivent. He has actually been a part of Family Conference, probably at least five years, many, many years. How he presents is very interesting. He keeps you entertained. He gets right to good stuff where you feel like you could use it right away. And he’s going to be addressing finances right now, where we’re at. Everything shifted. I don’t know if finances has affected any of you, but a lot of things shifted very quickly when it came to the changes in our society. He’s going to be addressing that and give you just some tools you can use right away with your finances to put yourself in a better spot.
Julie Hayden: And we have another Spanish presentation. This one is going to be by Dr. Kay. Again, she’s that trauma expert I talked to you about. But she also has been serving in Mexico for a number of years, and she’s fluent in Spanish. She is going to be presenting how to build that resilience in trauma in the Spanish language as well. So join her or tell others, and this will be an exciting presentation.
Julie Hayden: I have Leslie Kitchen on. I don’t know if you guys are from the area, but homeschool in Richmond Center is a very popular place in El Cajon for homeschool children or children in charter schools to gain extra fun activities and educational things. I’ll never forget they had one on dystopia versus utopia. It is a conversation for teens to have that. Just fascinating classes that they offer the community. And she’s going to be presenting 10 misconceptions of homeschooling. She has her own personal story and how she dealt with navigating different kids and their learning styles and everything else. And she’s going to be presenting for you 10 misconceptions of homeschooling, which may be helpful right now when many people are trying to decide what are they doing next year with school and education.
Julie Hayden: And I believe the last one at 12:00, world of the married. This is going to be in the Korean language again with Dr. Stella Kim. And she’s going to be looking at the four deadly horsemen in a marriage and looking at the sound relationship house. Very famous way of giving tools for those married by [Gottman 00:29:00]. She’s going to be presenting that in the Korean language.
Julie Hayden: Now, we also have at 1:00 PM a number of just phenomenal speakers. We have Dr. Esther Ye and she’s the one that hosted us or brought us in this morning. She is going to be presenting on healthy communication. I already know a lot of what she’s going to share. One of my favorite presentations to turn around and use right away. This could be for adults, this could be for teens, anybody having how to communicate better. These tools you’ll use right away for your family, work environment, everywhere. So that’s going to be very exciting.
Julie Hayden: I’m going to be presenting on the new marijuana. Will address history as well as what’s changed and how this might affect you. I believe every parent needs to know this information. Anybody working with youth, anybody working in the church leadership, this is a very important presentation. So come join me at 1:00 PM.
Julie Hayden: We also have leadership and influence by Dr. Ray Hayden, our keynote speaker. He’s going to take what he just presented on the attack on the family and creation story and how it all fits in. He’s going to take it to a deeper level on us being leaders and how we’re influencing our community. An amazing presentation ready for you. So join him on this presentation on leadership.
Julie Hayden: Sam Eli, one of our therapists here at La Mesa Counseling and Rhombus Counseling, he’s going to be sharing on historical hurt and fatherhood. We see generational patterns, and he’s going to talk about that and how you can break generational patterns. So join Sam Eli at 1:00 PM on fatherhood.
Julie Hayden: We also have Phyllis Long. She has been a therapist in the San Diego community for a very long time. She has New Day Women’s Center in El Cajon, and they’re doing a lot of impact themselves and conferences and in the community, and she’s going to be sharing on fostering connection and creativity with children. Now, this presentation is going to be helpful right now. As you’re at home, maybe your kids are there. Now, it’s going to be summer. But even when we come back, you may have them around more. How do you create and foster connection and creativity with your children? Very practical tools that you can use right away.
Julie Hayden: One of my personally favorite, favorite speakers of all time, Dr. Luther Smith, is going to be sharing. He’s going to be looking at real versus perceived shame or subjective versus objective shame. Many of us walk around with just a weight of shame. It may be stuff we did, and we do deserve it. Maybe stuff that we just think belongs to us, but it doesn’t. He’s going to be unfolding also more out of scripture about this topic so you can understand it as well as manage that and know what do you do with that shame. So I think parents, again, this is going to be important. For those possibly that have dealt with addictions, this could be important. Any of you that come from any kind of trauma, this could be very important for you to attend. Wonderful presentation.
Julie Hayden: Okay, we’re getting close, guys. We also have serving the homeless by Dr. Rosalyn Harper. Now Roz has been presenting for the Family Conference for a number of years as well. She’s worked a lot with sex trafficking and the homeless population. Right now, she’s at the San Diego Rescue Mission. And she’s on the frontlines of this situation. She’s going to share with you the types of homelessness, the causes, statistics, and what you can do. Where’s your part in it, or what can we do as a community to address something that has just grown, it’s just increased and getting worse, and yet, these are people that have… I’ve worked a lot with the homeless population, and they’re just people that are struggling right now that we can connect to, we can reach out and show Christ’s love for. So I hope that this gives you this broad overview of what you can jump in and get tools for right away.
Julie Hayden: I want to remind you to come with passion, come with excitement. If you see a topic you know you need, jump on. Come with us today to learn. If you miss one, we will try to have the recordings available to everyone later. And if you can think of who else you could impact by coming to a presentation. We are in a war. This is a spiritual war, and this is also a complicated time in the history of mankind. So I hope you will gain tools. You’ll get information. And not just know it, give it to others. Whatever you learn today, I hope you turn around and give it to others, and that will have a ripple effect in our society today. It has been personally difficult leading up to this day with chaos around us, and I just pray today, and I will pray you out, that you will have peace, you will have focus, and you will learn all you can from the presentations offered today.
Julie Hayden: So I’m going to take just a quick moment to also announce the winners of the $20 gift cards. All right. Let me find them here. Okay. Now these will be emailed to you. I should have everybody’s email because we’ve had you registered and have it on file. So if you don’t get it within the day, then let me know just in case and I’ll get an email to you.
Julie Hayden: So the first winner of today’s $20 gift card to Amazon is Russell. And I probably will not say this correctly, Marechale. I’m sure there’s a very fun way of saying that with some accent and I don’t know if I could do it. M-A-R-E-C-H-A-L-E. You have one $20 gift card to Amazon. So congratulations, and we are glad you’re on. Okay. The next winner of the $20 gift card is Lisette Valencia, Lisette Valencia. You have won a $20 gift card. These are just for fun guys, just to say thank you. We have some great sponsors this year. So we wanted to just make it a little fun and give out some prizes for those who attended the initial session.
Julie Hayden: So that will conclude our initial session today. I want you all to take some time after you close this session to take a deep breath, to pray, to let the Holy Spirit lead you on which presentation, go back to the email. You can go to our website. We have the links posted everywhere. And think, “What am I doing at 11:00 AM?” But now you have the full understanding of what’s available to you. I look forward to seeing some of you in my breakout session and jump on at 11:00 AM for the next session. If you have any questions, I’m going to stay on just in case for the chat and let you ask questions before you hop on the 11:00 session. Thank you all very much. It was a privilege to be here with you and to share in this learning experience. Have a good day, guys.
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